Mann Info 1c, Origins Oakes of Smethwick-West Bromwich

Info 1c. for Mann & Oakes, Smethwick UK origins

        George henry Oakes 
        b.~1795/6 Tipton
        d. 1861+
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        m.25 oct 1819 St Thomas, Dudly Worcester
        |
        Elizabeth Wilkes probably dau of Benjamin and Hannah
        c.29 sept 1794  St Martin, Birmingham c010727
        but could be  c.22 feb 1796 St Martin dau of William and Mary
        1851 census her age is 56=b.1794/5
        1861 census her age is 67=b.1793/4
        1881 census her age is 96=b.1794/5
        d.1881+
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 William         Harriet         John            Ann             Matilda              
 b.abt1820       b.1824          b.abt1825       b.1826/7        b.1829/30       





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 Harriet Oakes             Ann?          Thomas            Edward             Elizabeth  
 b~1831/2  Oldbury         b.~1832       b.1834/5 oldbury  b.~1836/7 Oldbury  b.~1841
 |                         |             |                                    West Bromwich
 d.08 may 1902   NZ        d.            d.                                   |
 |                         |             |                                    |
 m. 03 nov 1856            m.            m.decqt1859                          m. 
 |                         |             |                                    |    
 Christopher frederick     John          Mary                                 Benjamin
 Mann                      Nixon         Parsons                              Simkins
 b. about1830              b.abt1824     b.abt1840 dudley wood                b.
 Birmingham?  UK           d             d.                                   d.
 d.10jan1885  NZ age54     |             |                                    |
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1841 census
source       HO107 piece 978 / 7    folio 5    pages 4 and 5   
Place        West bromwich
Dwelling     Gunns Lane, Turnpike Road

                                            Whether born   Whether born Scotland
                Rel    Age    Occ           this county    Ireland or Forine parts                             
George Oakes    head   40     Pumpmaker      NO 
Elizth.                45                    No            Yes
Will.m                 20         NO
John                   15                    Yes               
Ann                    14                    Yes
Matilda                11                    Yes
Harriet                 9                    Yes
Thomas                  6                    Yes
Edward                  4                    Yes

Sophia Day    Serv     15                    Yes


1851 census 
Source             Ho107 piece 2050 folio 198 page 17     
Place              Smethwick, North Harbourne, district 2e
Dwelling           schedule 46,  Oldbury Rd.

                 Rel    Age   Occ                        Birthplace 
George H. Oakes  head   54    Wellsink and pump maker    Tipton   Stafford
Elizabeth Oakes  wife   56                               Birmingham  Warwick
Thomas    Oakes  son    16    Wellsink and pump maker    Oldbury     Worcester
Edward    Oakes  son    14    Labourer in iron works     Oldbury     Worcester
Elizabeth Oakes  gdau   10    Scholar                    West Bromwich Stafford

Harriet has left home
A possible for Harriet 
 
1851 census
Source      H0107, Piece 2055 folio ,157 page 32 enu 125
Place       Court 5 , Queen street Birmingham

John    Messenger    head  m  38      Codwainer                  Market Bosworth liecestershire
Ann     Messenger    wife  m  39                                 Valibig W. Bromsgrove
Harriet Oakes,       dau*  s  20       servt                     Worcestershire
Elizabeth Breirly    lodger   32                                 Birmingham
Elizabeth Breirly    dau       4                                 Birmingham
Daniel    Breirly    son       2                                 Birmingham

* The catch is relationship is entered as daughter
however this appears may be an enumator error as
The 1841 census shows Ann and John Messenger aged 30, Codwainer with 3 children, Charlotte 7, Susan 5, Alfred 1 but no Harriet!
It appears the 3 Messenger children have died young, so has Harriet been adopted?
if so then why is her occuption listed as servant?


1861 census
Source         RG9   Piece  2127,      folio 39
Place          Smethwick, North Harborne, Kings Norton
Dwelling       No.4 A New Street ( off Oldbury Rd.) 

                 Rel    Age    Occ                       Birthplace 
George H. Oakes  head   63     pump maker                Tipton Stafford
Elizabeth Oakes  wife   67                               Birmingham , Warwick
Harriet   Mann   dau    29     seamans wife              Oldbury Worcestershire
Edward    Oakes  son    23     pump maker,               Oldbury Worcestershire
John S.Simkins?  gson   11     scholar                   Smethwick Stafford
Alice S. Oakes   gdau   4 months                         Smethwick Satafford

IGI has a
Harriet Oakes c.04 Oct 1824
St. Martins, Birmingham , Warwick
father George Henry Oakes
mother Elizabet
Probably this child died and name reused
from igi list it appears post 1831 records
 St Martins may be missing.